Jamil Douglas had a very hard time at Guard in 2015.
Is the only hope for Jamil Douglas to play at Center?
They say you can’t teach speed. Can the same be said about strength?
Yes, and no. Now obviously, you can get stronger. You work out, your lifts increase. But, are wholesale changes possible? No, at least not naturally. Especially not when you’re in class of the NFL, where after years of weight training, you are near the threshold of your maximum potential.
This is why Jamil Douglas will likely not be able to play guard on a full time basis in the NFL. The Guard position demands strength, and strength aplenty, as they must deal with large Defensive Tackles, head up, or in one-on-one blocking.
If you go back and watch his tape, Jamil was mostly in position, and his technique was mostly sound. But, he was tossed around like a rag doll just about every play…until, he moved to Center.
Center is a whole other matter in regards to strength.
The Center position doesn’t require strength as a primary physical skill set like Guards do. Centers don’t face Defensive Tackles alone, and even when they get the less common “1” or “0” technique Nose Tackles, they get scheme support, if and when the staff feels they need it. Footwork and agility is a Center’s best friend on the NFL level as they attack the second level, perform angle attacks in a double-team, pass block, or pull.
Jamil Douglas has both excellent footwork and agility.
The NFL Draft scouting report had Jamil Douglas as having both excellent footwork and agility.
The NFL Draft scouting report had Jamil Douglas as having both an extreme weakness to power moves and at the point of attack.
Both were proven to be spot on by Jamil Douglas’ 2015 season.
Yes, his botched snap with be remembered with infamy by many a fan and those into football gambling, but we must also remember that he had NEVER played center before. If you go back and look at his play at center, he did pretty darn well given the fact that he jumped into the position at the tail-end of the season. It will be very interesting to see how he pans out this training camp, and how this 4th round pick “could” end up as a potential replacement for Mike Pouncy in the coming years.
* edit in FB tag from John Aurora Benihana tosses the food, not Sushi 🙁
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Looking at the photo, is that Jason Fox, Billy Turner, Jamil Douglas, and Dallas Thomas as 4/5 of our starting O-Line? How in the hell did we ever move the ball??? Must have been the worst O-Line in football by FAR! Compare that to this years projected starting O-Line; James, Urbik/Bushrod, Pouncey, Tunsil, Albert…. That alone is reason for hope. Go from the worst to at the very least top 10?
I believe that Douglas has the perfect set up as a center. Very well could be Pouncey’s replacement in the near future, especially if Pouncey gets nicked up and gives Douglas the opportunity.
I think his shot to make the team is in the back up role, so he can develop another year and try to “make it” in yr 3 or 4 of his contract. It was a pretty poor line…if you think about it, if they can stay healthy with this influx of talent, Miami O could be very good, especially without an idiot running the team and a bozo making the calls.
We had a crew full of Bozos, they would have had a hard time winning at the college level, really! Not sure if this off season will lead to wins in ’16, but everything feels right. I’m almost certain that this regime will not have a 3 game stretch with a total of 27 running plays. After all we did have the fewest rushing attempts in the league last year, not surprised. Even though we were 9th in the league at 4.3/yds per carry, our staff still neglected the run, 9th in the entire league!
…the OL will be better but we lost Miller and I don’t see Ajayi replacing him …if we’re better at running the ball it will be one or more of 4 factors: …Tannehill becoming a real downfield threat that keeps the opponent’s dbs in the backfield …the coaching being much more aggressive in run calling AND coaching the run game …Tannehill opting to run instead of a called pass play because of the defense he sees …not himself necessarily but handing off to a RB …the WR/TE coaches putting a lot more emphasis on run blocking …and getting the receivers to buy into hitting someone
…one other run game factor that may impact our results is Gase/OC getting Tannehill out of the pocket much more often …Philbin tried to make him a pocket passer, not his natural ability …if he gets out of the pocket with some blocking, all kinds of things can happen
Agree, but with one caveat…the stretch-zone always has the potential to work wonders with the right crew up front and an excellent one cut back. I think Ajayi, with health (fingers crossed), will be very good and better than Miller, not due to outside work, but due to his ability to work the interior on the cut back lanes of the zone stretch when interior linemen overpursue or get washed. I just worry about his health and the lack of depth at RB.
…you pretty much called it on Douglas …he’s a center at best, a backup at guard that will get his QB sacked …if Pouncy were reliable, I’d have Douglas on the cut list shortly after Thomas …but Pouncy isn’t so Douglas will likely be on the 53 list …for this year …hopefully next year we can find his replacement …but he’s prime evidence of what bad scouting finds in the 4th round
I’d say he could be the back-up this year a C…if not he is likely on the cut list, unless he gets some “special” training in his strength and weight. He was never going to be a guard…even the “experts” were right on this one!!
Not our “Experts”! Our “Experts” had him starting from day 1. What a joke we were, and yes I did drink the darn Kool Aid prior to the season. I’m a softy, and Philbin was/is a nice guy. “Nice” guys finish last in this league, literally.
I lost alot of my Kool Aid ability Shula’s last year…I was Super Bowl running…But, I worked with this guy in Florida who was big time and new everyone from the 70’s team’s. He told me “I know good teams and this ain’t one of them”. I went on spouting this and that. Told him he was wrong…blah,blah. We know how the story goes. But, at the end he smiled and said “one day you’ll understand”. So, it’s been 21 years since my last sip of cool aid…and it’s not that I don’t want to drink it, but the sheer face smack, added to the injury of Shula leaving, with the “I told you so” ringing in my ears has me twice shy since.
Looking at the photo, is that Jason Fox, Billy Turner, Jamil Douglas, and Dallas Thomas as 4/5 of our starting O-Line? How in the hell did we ever move the ball??? Must have been the worst O-Line in football by FAR! Compare that to this years projected starting O-Line; James, Urbik/Bushrod, Pouncey, Tunsil, Albert…. That alone is reason for hope. Go from the worst to at the very least top 10?
I believe that Douglas has the perfect set up as a center. Very well could be Pouncey’s replacement in the near future, especially if Pouncey gets nicked up and gives Douglas the opportunity.
I think his shot to make the team is in the back up role, so he can develop another year and try to “make it” in yr 3 or 4 of his contract. It was a pretty poor line…if you think about it, if they can stay healthy with this influx of talent, Miami O could be very good, especially without an idiot running the team and a bozo making the calls.
We had a crew full of Bozos, they would have had a hard time winning at the college level, really! Not sure if this off season will lead to wins in ’16, but everything feels right. I’m almost certain that this regime will not have a 3 game stretch with a total of 27 running plays. After all we did have the fewest rushing attempts in the league last year, not surprised. Even though we were 9th in the league at 4.3/yds per carry, our staff still neglected the run, 9th in the entire league!
…the OL will be better but we lost Miller and I don’t see Ajayi replacing him …if we’re better at running the ball it will be one or more of 4 factors:
…Tannehill becoming a real downfield threat that keeps the opponent’s dbs in the backfield
…the coaching being much more aggressive in run calling AND coaching the run game
…Tannehill opting to run instead of a called pass play because of the defense he sees …not himself necessarily but handing off to a RB
…the WR/TE coaches putting a lot more emphasis on run blocking …and getting the receivers to buy into hitting someone
…one other run game factor that may impact our results is Gase/OC getting Tannehill out of the pocket much more often …Philbin tried to make him a pocket passer, not his natural ability …if he gets out of the pocket with some blocking, all kinds of things can happen
Agree, but with one caveat…the stretch-zone always has the potential to work wonders with the right crew up front and an excellent one cut back. I think Ajayi, with health (fingers crossed), will be very good and better than Miller, not due to outside work, but due to his ability to work the interior on the cut back lanes of the zone stretch when interior linemen overpursue or get washed. I just worry about his health and the lack of depth at RB.
…you pretty much called it on Douglas …he’s a center at best, a backup at guard that will get his QB sacked …if Pouncy were reliable, I’d have Douglas on the cut list shortly after Thomas …but Pouncy isn’t so Douglas will likely be on the 53 list
…for this year …hopefully next year we can find his replacement …but he’s prime evidence of what bad scouting finds in the 4th round
I’d say he could be the back-up this year a C…if not he is likely on the cut list, unless he gets some “special” training in his strength and weight. He was never going to be a guard…even the “experts” were right on this one!!
Not our “Experts”! Our “Experts” had him starting from day 1. What a joke we were, and yes I did drink the darn Kool Aid prior to the season. I’m a softy, and Philbin was/is a nice guy. “Nice” guys finish last in this league, literally.
I lost alot of my Kool Aid ability Shula’s last year…I was Super Bowl running…But, I worked with this guy in Florida who was big time and new everyone from the 70’s team’s. He told me “I know good teams and this ain’t one of them”. I went on spouting this and that. Told him he was wrong…blah,blah. We know how the story goes. But, at the end he smiled and said “one day you’ll understand”. So, it’s been 21 years since my last sip of cool aid…and it’s not that I don’t want to drink it, but the sheer face smack, added to the injury of Shula leaving, with the “I told you so” ringing in my ears has me twice shy since.